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Thermodynamics JEE 2020: Diathermic Partition Ambiguity

JEE Advanced 2020 Physics Thermodynamics Ideal gas with movable diathermic partition

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A thermally isolated cylindrical closed vessel of height 8 m is kept vertically. It is divided into two equal parts by a diathermic, perfectly thermal conducting, frictionless partition of mass 8.3 kg. Thus the partition is held initially at a distance of 4 m from the top, as shown in the schematic figure. Each of the two parts of the vessel contains 0.1 mole of an ideal gas at temperature 300 K. The partition is now released and moves without any gas leaking from one part of the vessel to the other. When equilibrium is reached, the distance of the partition from the top, in m, will be ______. Take acceleration due to gravity as 10 m s2 and universal gas constant as 8.3 J mol1 K1.

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The official solution shown on the page states: Bonus marks to all students.

Reason for ambiguity:

Let the final distance of the partition from the top be x m and the cross-sectional area of the cylinder be A.

Since the partition is diathermic, the gases on both sides must have the same final temperature T.

For the top part:

V1=Ax

P1=nRTAx

For the bottom part:

V2=A(8x)

P2=nRTA(8x)

At mechanical equilibrium, the upward force due to the lower gas balances the downward force due to the upper gas and the weight of the partition:

P2A=P1A+mg

So,

(P2P1)A=mg

Substituting the ideal-gas pressures:

nRT(18x1x)=mg

Here,

n=0.1

m=8.3

g=10

Thus,

mg=83

But the final temperature T is not necessarily 300 K because the whole vessel is thermally isolated. The gravitational potential energy lost or gained by the partition can change the internal energy of the gases.

Energy conservation would require information about the molar heat capacity CV of the gas:

2nCV(T300)+mg(4x)=0

This gives:

T=300+mg(x4)2nCV

Therefore, the final position x depends on CV, but CV is not given in the question. Hence the numerical answer is not uniquely determined.

If one incorrectly assumes that the final process is isothermal at 300 K, then:

nRT=0.1×8.3×300

nRT=249

The equilibrium equation becomes:

249(18x1x)=83

So,

18x1x=13

2x8x(8x)=13

3(2x8)=x(8x)

6x24=8xx2

x22x24=0

x=6

But this value depends on an extra isothermal assumption which is not justified for a thermally isolated vessel. Hence the question was awarded bonus marks.

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What was the thermodynamics jee 2020 movable diathermic partition question?

The JEE Advanced 2020 question placed a frictionless diathermic partition of mass 8.3 kg inside a thermally isolated vertical cylinder of height 8 m. The partition started at 4 m from the top, with each compartment containing 0.1 mol of ideal gas at 300 K. The partition was released and moved without leakage until new equilibrium. The task was to find its final distance from the top.

Vertical closed cylinder 8 m tall containing a horizontal movable diathermic partition of mass 8.3 kg initially at 4 m from the top; upper chamber height labelled x, lower chamber height labelled 8-x, both with 0.1 mol ideal gas at 300 K, partition weight mg acting downward.

The vessel has no heat exchange with surroundings. The diathermic partition equalises temperatures on both sides at final T. Force balance on the partition and energy conservation for the isolated system are both required. Mechanical equilibrium alone cannot fix a unique numerical value for final x.

What does the official solution show step by step for the thermodynamics jee 2020 question?

Let final distance from the top be x m with cross-sectional area A. The diathermic partition gives the same final temperature T on both sides.

P1=0.1RTAx
P2=0.1RTA(8x)

Mechanical equilibrium requires: P2A=P1A+mg

(P2P1)A=mg=8.3×10=83 N

Substitution yields:

0.1RT(18x1x)=83

Energy conservation for the isolated vessel is:

2×0.1×CV(T300)+83(4x)=0

This gives:

T=300+83(x4)0.2CV

Final x depends on unknown CV. No unique numerical answer satisfies both equations. The official note declared the question ambiguous and awarded bonus marks to all.

How does assuming constant temperature produce x = 6 in the thermodynamics jee 2020 question?

Many students assume final T remains 300 K because the partition is diathermic. This ignores that the vessel is thermally isolated, so gravitational PE change must alter total internal energy of both gases.

They calculate nRT=0.1×8.3×300=249 and obtain:

249(18x1x)=83
18x1x=13

Algebra gives: 3(2x8)=x(8x) x22x24=0

Positive root is x=6. This satisfies force balance only under the isothermal assumption. The error treats the diathermic partition as a guarantee of constant temperature instead of equal final temperatures. Gravitational PE term mg(4x) converts to internal energy and requires the CV term the question omits.

Why did the thermodynamics jee 2020 question receive bonus marks?

Final T is not necessarily 300 K because the whole vessel is thermally isolated. The gravitational PE term mg(4x) must be balanced by change in internal energy of both gases. That energy equation explicitly needs molar heat capacity CV, which the question never supplied.

Mechanical equilibrium alone relates x and T. Energy conservation supplies a second relation still containing CV. Substituting leaves x dependent on an unknown constant, so no unique numerical answer exists. The official note stated this ambiguity and awarded bonus to all candidates. JEE Advanced sometimes contains such flaws.

Which related thermodynamics questions test partitions and energy conservation?

Question 1: Two ideal gases are separated by a fixed diathermic wall inside an insulated container. If one side is supplied heat slowly, what happens to the final pressures and temperatures on both sides? Compare with a conducting wall scenario. (See the similar ideas in the Thermodynamics JEE 2022 soap bubble multi-correct question.)

Question 2: A movable adiabatic piston of mass m separates two compartments of ideal gas in a vertical insulated cylinder. Compare the final temperatures and equilibrium heights with the diathermic case studied in the thermodynamics jee 2020 question. Explain why temperatures now differ.

Question 3: A conducting piston of mass 5 kg falls under gravity in a closed insulated vessel containing 0.2 mol of monatomic ideal gas with CV=52R. Initial height is 2 m and temperature 300 K. Calculate the final temperature after equilibrium, including the gravitational potential energy term.

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What should you remember for similar JEE Advanced thermodynamics problems?

Diathermic partitions enforce equal final temperatures but do not keep T equal to initial 300 K. For any thermally isolated vessel, total energy balance must include Δ(mgh) of every massive moving part. Always check whether CV or γ is supplied before assuming a numerical answer for final x or h.

The numbers R=8.3 J mol1K1 and g=10 m s2 were chosen so the isothermal path yields the clean root x=6. Compare with the adiabatic partition case where temperatures differ and no heat transfer occurs. In every isolated piston problem write the energy equation first, before substituting numbers. This habit prevents the isothermal assumption in future papers. When you meet a similar doubt, photograph the question to receive a step-by-step solution with the required free-body diagram.

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Frequently asked questions

Why was the thermodynamics JEE 2020 partition question ambiguous?

The final position x could not be found uniquely because the energy conservation equation contains CV, which was not given. Mechanical equilibrium relates x and T while energy balance introduces CV, leaving no single numerical solution.

What is the value of x in thermodynamics jee 2020 question?

There is no unique numerical value. Assuming constant temperature of 300 K yields x=6 m from the force balance, but this ignores the thermally isolated system where gravitational PE change alters internal energy and thus temperature.

Does diathermic partition mean temperature remains 300 K?

No. The diathermic partition only ensures both gases reach the same final temperature T. Since the vessel is thermally isolated, the drop or rise in gravitational PE of the partition changes the total internal energy, so T differs from the initial 300 K.

Why were bonus marks given in thermodynamics jee 2020?

Officials declared the question ambiguous because the two equations involve an unknown CV, preventing a unique numerical answer for final x. Energy conservation requires the CV term to balance the gravitational PE change of the 8.3 kg partition.

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